Joe Saunders joins an exhausted, but up for it Linkin Park
for a conversation about nu-metal, creative control and
pushing ice cream up guardsmen's arses. Ho hum.
At 9 o'clock on January the 12th 2001, Linkin Park began
their Day Of Press. All of which means: a jet-lagged, homesick,
physically exhausted group of five young men are paraded
in front of the world's press. 4 songs recorded for a BBC
session, MTV and VH1 appearances, handshakes, smiles and
24 hours of the same old questions, ("Where did the
name "Linkin Park" come from") from the usual
suspects, (Rocktribe nods wearily to eager young seekers
after truth and jaded, drunken hacks in the lobby of Bailey's
Hotel.) all of which the band, who by the time we get to
see them are suffering from near terminal cabin-fever, are
expected to take with courtesy, politesse and grace.
Well fuck all that, because while we know how to spell
professionalism, its a concept that we infrequently actually
employ. We join Mike (vocals,) Joe (Dj.) and Brad (guitar)
in a trashed 6th floor boudoir where, to Rocktribe's eternal
respect and admiration, 3/5ths of Linkin Park are crashed
out on the bed, watching the bowling. (A uniquely British
sport in which the aim of the game is to make it to the
end of the round without keeling over of old age.)
I suggest spending our carefully allotted half hour discussing
the relative merits of this fine old sport and the boys
are up for it. Their press agent, however, is less than
keen. We move, unwillingly, to the living area to conduct
a hastily contrived "real" interview which, although
it starts strongly, descends rapidly into farce. Excellent.
I advise Mike to strap on his fake smile so he can plough
through another 30 minutes of predictable questions. He
smiles affably, "Don't worry man, we've come up with
some interesting answers." I learn later that several
journalists today have gone through a half an hour labouring
under the misapprehension that Mike is Joe, Joe is Brad
and Brad is Chester. Oh these wacky Yanks.
First things first. Why are you over here?
Brad Delson: We played Paris for the first
time this week and then London last night. We're only here
to do 3 shows, its kind of warm up for march when we come
back with the Deftones.
RT: How did the London show go?
Mike Shinoda: Sick. Off the hook.
Brad: If you weren't there then just talk
to someone who was.
Mike: You don't want to hear it from us,
RT: You're biased?
Mike: No we're not biased. We'll just go off.
Brad: Yeah man, we'll be the first to admit
it when we suck and last night was one night that we didn't
suck
RT: How long are you in town for?
Mike: We leave on the 14th for our headline
tour with Taproot, at least I hope we do.
RT: What are you going to do in London? A few drinkypoos,
Mike: We actually got a present from our record
company out here, they greeted us with alcohol. Cases of
lager.
Brad: Which is great because some of us don't
really drink so its nice, but like...
RT: Well, this is London
Brad: Well I'm not going to drink it...
Mike: You'd better drink it, or I'm going
to force it down your throat.
Brad: ...Its like, great. Vodka. Thanks.
Mike: Which just means that there's more for
Joe.
Joe, who has so far been sitting in an enigmatic silence,
pipes up suddenly, "Yeah. I'm a whore."
A band who've suddenly had the attention of the world's
press thrust on them must be under considerable pressure
to perform and act in a certain way. Glancing around the
hotel room its clear that Warner's are lavishing a lot of
money and attention on the band, but Brad is keen to point
out the contradictions, "There's like this whole rock
star thing where you're supposed to get drunk and party
and all that. but if you think about it, all the great bands
of the last few decades were destroyed by drugs and alcohol
and for all the talk about the record industry being more
responsible with bands who have problems, they actually
want you to live up to this antiquated mystique about what
a rock star should be." The Iggy Pop syndrome? "They
almost encourage it, and I'm like, "that's not what
I'm about." Not, Mike and Joe are keen to point out,
that Brad's point of view is not shared by everyone, "Speaketh
for thyself," drawls Joe, sprawled on the sofa, perhaps
having indulged a little too freely the night before. Mike
confirms this emphatically, "Joe is a rockstar."
he says, beaming at the prostrate Joe."He has his own
hairdresser, his own wardrobe case with all leathers in
it, and he has to be doped up on something to do a show."
The three of them then collapse into a hysteria borne of
impending physical and mental exhaustion. This is not the
first time that this will happen in the next half hour.
This is, in fact, the best its going to get - Linkin Park's
tiredness, and Rocktribe's famous lackadaisical approach
to professional journalism both conspiring to make this
more of a giggle-fest than an in-depth analysis.
RT: Do you feel famous?
Brad: "Do you think we're famous? All
I know is that at the show last night (at the London show)
we didn't have passes...and yet there were....a...OK...."
he pulls himself up short, tongue-tied - and turns to Mike.
"You tell the story."
Mike, the only member of the band with a functioning tongue
in his head, fills in, "My story was that I showed
up late. I was busy doing other things ..." Brad and
Joe exchange knowing glances, "Mike is never late"
says Brad, sarcasm dripping from every syllable. "Whatever,
I showed up a half hour before the show and we got up to
the door and the guy stopped us. he says "Where's your
passes?" and I'm looking past him and there's like
these 5 foot posters with our faces on and just for a second
I was thinking "You idiot." But then my second
thought was "Well cool, I can walk through this club
right now and not get stopped by anyone."
RT: You're turning into Spinal Tap already?
Mike: Only in the sense that we can't find
the stage.
Brad: We try to be life imitating art as much
as possible when it comes to Spinal Tap.
And, as if by magic, at this point life really does begin
to imitate art as Mike decides there's one aspect of British
culture that he really needs clarifying, "You know
those guards with the hats? The ones that don't move."
"The guards at Buckingham Palace?"
"Yeah. Can you touch them?"
"I think so."
"Can you, like, stick your thumb in their butts and
they won't move?"
"At what point would they like, destroy you?"
Adds Brad, helpfully.
"Why do you ask?" I enquire, bemused. Joe spells
it out,
"In America we have an ice cream called a Big Stick
and we want to stick one of those up their asses"
"Can I film it?"
There follows 5 minutes of laughter, phones ringing and
tour managers with emails in which, while no questions are
actually asked, I begin to feel that the interview is going
swimmingly and regret that the aforementioned crates of
lager aren't kicking around anywhere nearby. (Readers wishing
to know how Linkin Park got their name, would do well to
turn off now.)
RT: So how important has the Internet been in your
development.
Mike: "Well, www.linkinpark.com
has been a very important part of our lives..."
Brad: "I always mention the website and
we've put a lot of hard work into it."
"Hard work" must be an expression that Linkin
Park are familiar with, having been touring with one band
or another for something approaching the last six decades.
It's a testament to what a tight unit the band are that
they can hold it together for such long periods of time.
The following question illustrates this, (unintentionally,
as it turns out.) It turns out that Mike and Joe have had
a large amount of creative control in the website's content
and design. Rocktribe asks whether they'd also had an input
in their video to "One Step Closer." Brad and
Mike suddenly gasp in mock horror and put their hands over
their mouths, "Uh-oh. Joe's gotta answer a question...."
Joe, who seems like he gets a lot of this, ploughs on regardless."They
let us do pretty much what we wanted to..." "Who's
they?" chimes Mike, keen to ensure that Joe answers
all questions with as much detail as he can. Joe winces
with semi-serious irritation "The guys at the record
company over there because they don't really have any creative
people there anyway." Mike and Brad gape in open mouthed
mockery at what must surely be the most sweeping statement
yet made in any interview, "Dude, what are you saying!!???"
"What? Our A&R guy?" says Joe, incredulous
that he's getting abuse for speaking his mind. "Are
you saying that our A&R guy couldn't direct a video?"
says Mike. Joe shoves his head in his hands and gives up
the ghost entirely, "I can't do this." he groans,
"I don't know what's happening..." Life on the
road being as it is, (moreso for "Hot Young Bands,")
there is little sympathy for Joe and Mike and Brad continue
to rag him mercilessly throughout his answer.
"You directed the video?" I say.
"No, I came up with the storyboard." says Joe
from behind his hands.
"Joe copped out on that answer." says Mike, like
a protective big brother. Brad agrees, "If we answered
every question like that..." "The fact is that
Joe did the original treatment and he's just being modest."
"At least I'm not being arrogant like you fucks."
Joe says petulantly, and with that, the room once again
collapses into giggles. A brief moment of lucidity arises
as I ask Brad about whether he thinks its easier for a metal
band to admit to influences outside of the metal world.
(Brad has previously admitted to being a Depeche mode fan,)
as opposed to always citing the ubiquitous Black Sabbath
or Led Zeppelin. "I don't think any of those metal
bands are our influences at all. I wouldn't describe our
stuff as metal at all. Maybe in some of my guitar parts
and some of Chester's vocals. Our aim is to be a hybrid
between progressive hip hop, hard alternative rock and electronic.
Naturally, what we've always strived for is not to be a
metal band or a hip hop group, but to just be Linkin Park"
A noble aim, sure enough, and one which, given a few weeks
of uninterrupted sleep, shouldn't be too hard for them to
pull off.
by Rock Tribe